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* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlB-pRqdyBg | == [[russian invasion of Ukraine/Reasons]], [[NATO]] == | ||
* [[Kamil Galeev]], “[https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1593388247799021568 The Poverty of Realism This interview illustrates some key fallacies, shortcomings and outright intellectual dishonesty associated with Mearsheimer’s realist approach.]” ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1593388247799021568.html thread]) ([https://liberpedia.net/threads/Kamil-Galeev-Mearsheimer.pdf pdf]), November 11, 2022 | |||
* [https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4079666-americas-leading-realist-keeps-getting-russia-wrong/ America’s leading ‘realist’ keeps getting Russia wrong] | |||
* [[Elan Journo]], [https://newideal.aynrand.org/why-john-mearsheimer-gets-ukraine-wrong/ Why John Mearsheimer Gets Ukraine Wrong] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHHcgCf3cio Evaluating U.S. Foreign Policy since the End of the Cold War] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC-2ISZWWtQ John Mearsheimer is a Russian troll - Piotr Napierała PhD] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlB-pRqdyBg Why Mearsheimer is wrong about Russia and the war in Ukraine. Five arguments from Alexander Stubb.] | |||
* [https://cpd.gov.ua/reports/%D1%81%D0%BF%D1%96%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8-%D1%8F%D0%BA%D1%96-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%8E%D1%82%D1%8C-%D1%81%D0%BF%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%B7%D0%B2%D1%83%D1%87%D0%BD%D1%96-%D1%80%D0%BE/ Спікери, які просувають співзвучні російській пропаганді наративи] [https://cpd.gov.ua/reports/spikery-yaki-prosuvayut-spivzvuchni-rosijskij-propagandi-naratyvy/] | * [https://cpd.gov.ua/reports/%D1%81%D0%BF%D1%96%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8-%D1%8F%D0%BA%D1%96-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%8E%D1%82%D1%8C-%D1%81%D0%BF%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%B7%D0%B2%D1%83%D1%87%D0%BD%D1%96-%D1%80%D0%BE/ Спікери, які просувають співзвучні російській пропаганді наративи] [https://cpd.gov.ua/reports/spikery-yaki-prosuvayut-spivzvuchni-rosijskij-propagandi-naratyvy/] | ||
* https://euideas.eui.eu/2022/07/11/john-mearsheimers-lecture-on-ukraine-why-he-is-wrong-and-what-are-the-consequences/ | * [https://euideas.eui.eu/2022/07/11/john-mearsheimers-lecture-on-ukraine-why-he-is-wrong-and-what-are-the-consequences/ John Mearsheimer’s lecture on Ukraine: Why he is wrong and what are the consequences] | ||
* [[Yuri N. Maltsev]], “[https://www.facebook.com/ymaltsev/posts/pfbid02QNSryPFwVVDR1uzY6yuXeiFBBah62ZnTtJ7eoow3hXViRTCirUcWLS1FEQPb8BAKl Just listened to John J. Mearsheimer’s lecture at the European University Institute. He is either <nowiki>[an]</nowiki> imbecile or Putin’s troll or both. What a shame to subsidize fascism with the EU funds!]” | |||
* [[John J. Mearsheimer]], “[https://original.antiwar.com/mcgovern/2022/04/10/mearsheimer-russia-sees-existential-threat-must-win/ There is no evidence in what Putin has said that he wants to make Ukraine part of Russia]” | |||
* [[Joe Cirincione]], [https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-missing-mearsheimers-analysis-ukraine-war What’s Missing from Mearsheimer’s Analysis of the Ukraine War] | |||
* [https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1665811206085521410 David Sacks has misinterpreted John Mearsheimer who misinterpreted what happens next in Ukraine and twitter went wild. So, let’s take it apart, point by point. ] | |||
* [https://slantchev.wordpress.com/2022/11/18/peak-dishonesty-mearsheimer-in-the-new-yorker/ Peak dishonesty: Mearsheimer in The New Yorker] | |||
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At the Mearsheimer event in Brisbane Australia, I asked John Mearsheimer why anybody should ever listen to him about Ukraine ever again considering he has been wrong about Ukraine every single time and now quotes Russian military bloggers like “Big Serge,” he just dodged response and claimed he has been proven correct in Ukraine because Ukraine is still suffering against Russia. | |||
I’ll try get video up as soon as I get a hold of it. | |||
Text of my full question: | |||
In your infamous 2015 University of Chicago lecture, you dismissed the idea that Russia would ever try to ‘’conquer Ukraine’’ —arguing ‘’Putin is much too smart for that.’’ | |||
Then, in the lead up to the 2022 invasion, you argued, and I quote you word for word: ‘’What the Russians are going to do is CRUSH the Ukrainians. They’re going to bring out the big guns. They’re going to turn places like Kyiv and other cities in Ukraine into rubble. It will be like Fallujah, Mosul, Grozny.’’ You argued Western intervention would be pointless because Russia would level Ukraine and go nuclear against the West. | |||
Then, in an interview with Chinese Communist Party controlled media outlet CGTN on February 23rd this year, you said, and again, I quote you word for word: ‘’Conventional wisdom in the West has long been that Vladimir Putin was an imperialist and he was determined to conquer Ukraine and make it part of a Greater Russia. There is NO evidence to support that.’’ | |||
So first, we were told that Russia and Putin will NEVER try conquer Ukraine. | |||
Then you told us that Russia will CRUSH the Ukrainians. | |||
Then, when Russia invades but fails to take Kyiv, you argue there is NO evidence Russia ever wanted to conquer Ukraine. | |||
Your claim that there is NO evidence for that Putin is an imperialist completely beggars belief. | |||
ONE, Putin claims Ukraine is not a country and has never existed as a country. He openly compares himself to Peter the Great while musing on territorial conquest. Here is a Putin quote: ‘’What was Peter doing? Taking back and reinforcing. That’s what he did. And it looks like it fell on us to take back and reinforce as well.’’ And while he muses about taking back Russian land, Russian military recruitment ads show Russian soldiers talking about the flats they will buy and occupy in Kyiv and Odessa. | |||
TWO, Russian forces have systematically executed all Ukrainian cultural and civic leaders in every Ukrainian town that they have occupied. They leave behind mass graves, torture chambers and death pits. | |||
THREE, Putin was indicted by the International Criminal Court for forcibly transferring hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian children to Russia to be raised as Russian. Some three million Ukrainians have been deported to Russia, this is an act of genocide, an attempt to wipe out Ukraine as a nation and incorporate its children into Russia. For comparison: Nazi Germany deported about 200,000 Polish children for assimilation during the entire Second World War. | |||
FOUR, Russia targets civilian energy infrastructure in Ukraine with the goal of making the country uninhabitable and ungovernable. They spent months last year boasting that they would freeze millions of Ukrainians to death. | |||
So, my question. John, You have been wrong over and over and over again on Ukraine, blatantly wrong. You hang out with Victor Orban and quote crazy sleazy Russian military bloggers named “BIG SERGE” in your writings. | |||
You’ve claimed to the New Yorker that Putin has never lied to other world leaders, you even said that Hitler only ever lied once or twice to other world leaders? You’ve burnt your credibility, why should we take anything you say seriously ever again? | |||
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[https://twitter.com/DrewPavlou/status/1716388303006745064 Drew Pavlou] | |||
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== [[Israel]], [[Palestine]], [[Antisemitism]] == | |||
* [https://www.hudson.org/domestic-policy/john-mearsheimer-s-latest-disgrace John Mearsheimer’s Latest Disgrace] | |||
* [https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/2006/04/05/yes-its-anti-semitic/e7de5f13-60d5-4567-9090-8d24c8237801/ Yes, It’s Anti-Semitic] | |||
* [https://www.adl.org/resources/news/review-mearsheimer-and-walts-israel-lobby-and-us-foreign-policy A Review of Mearsheimer and Walt’s “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy”] | |||
* [https://www.commentary.org/omri-ceren/mearsheimer-anti-semitism-scandal/ Mearsheimer’s Anti-Semitism Scandal] | |||
* [https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/walt-and-mearsheimer-s-lobby-fantasies-a-review-of-the-israel-lobby Walt and Mearsheimer’s Lobby Fantasies] | |||
* [https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/american-interest The American Interest] | |||
* https://martinkramer.org/2006/04/24/israel-oil-and-realism/ | |||
== China, Japan == | |||
* [https://twitter.com/StevenGlinert/status/1731482026673668309 Peak Mearsheimer is “actually china was the aggressor that started the second sino Japanese war”] | |||
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== See also == | |||
* | * [[Stephen M. Walt]] | ||
[[uk: Джон Міршаймер]] | [[uk: Джон Міршаймер]] | ||
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Latest revision as of 15:04, 26 January 2024
- American vatnik
russian invasion of Ukraine/Reasons, NATO
- Kamil Galeev, “The Poverty of Realism This interview illustrates some key fallacies, shortcomings and outright intellectual dishonesty associated with Mearsheimer’s realist approach.” (thread) (pdf), November 11, 2022
- Yuri N. Maltsev, “Just listened to John J. Mearsheimer’s lecture at the European University Institute. He is either [an] imbecile or Putin’s troll or both. What a shame to subsidize fascism with the EU funds!”
- John J. Mearsheimer, “There is no evidence in what Putin has said that he wants to make Ukraine part of Russia”
“ At the Mearsheimer event in Brisbane Australia, I asked John Mearsheimer why anybody should ever listen to him about Ukraine ever again considering he has been wrong about Ukraine every single time and now quotes Russian military bloggers like “Big Serge,” he just dodged response and claimed he has been proven correct in Ukraine because Ukraine is still suffering against Russia.
I’ll try get video up as soon as I get a hold of it.
Text of my full question:
In your infamous 2015 University of Chicago lecture, you dismissed the idea that Russia would ever try to ‘’conquer Ukraine’’ —arguing ‘’Putin is much too smart for that.’’
Then, in the lead up to the 2022 invasion, you argued, and I quote you word for word: ‘’What the Russians are going to do is CRUSH the Ukrainians. They’re going to bring out the big guns. They’re going to turn places like Kyiv and other cities in Ukraine into rubble. It will be like Fallujah, Mosul, Grozny.’’ You argued Western intervention would be pointless because Russia would level Ukraine and go nuclear against the West.
Then, in an interview with Chinese Communist Party controlled media outlet CGTN on February 23rd this year, you said, and again, I quote you word for word: ‘’Conventional wisdom in the West has long been that Vladimir Putin was an imperialist and he was determined to conquer Ukraine and make it part of a Greater Russia. There is NO evidence to support that.’’
So first, we were told that Russia and Putin will NEVER try conquer Ukraine.
Then you told us that Russia will CRUSH the Ukrainians.
Then, when Russia invades but fails to take Kyiv, you argue there is NO evidence Russia ever wanted to conquer Ukraine.
Your claim that there is NO evidence for that Putin is an imperialist completely beggars belief.
ONE, Putin claims Ukraine is not a country and has never existed as a country. He openly compares himself to Peter the Great while musing on territorial conquest. Here is a Putin quote: ‘’What was Peter doing? Taking back and reinforcing. That’s what he did. And it looks like it fell on us to take back and reinforce as well.’’ And while he muses about taking back Russian land, Russian military recruitment ads show Russian soldiers talking about the flats they will buy and occupy in Kyiv and Odessa.
TWO, Russian forces have systematically executed all Ukrainian cultural and civic leaders in every Ukrainian town that they have occupied. They leave behind mass graves, torture chambers and death pits.
THREE, Putin was indicted by the International Criminal Court for forcibly transferring hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian children to Russia to be raised as Russian. Some three million Ukrainians have been deported to Russia, this is an act of genocide, an attempt to wipe out Ukraine as a nation and incorporate its children into Russia. For comparison: Nazi Germany deported about 200,000 Polish children for assimilation during the entire Second World War.
FOUR, Russia targets civilian energy infrastructure in Ukraine with the goal of making the country uninhabitable and ungovernable. They spent months last year boasting that they would freeze millions of Ukrainians to death.
So, my question. John, You have been wrong over and over and over again on Ukraine, blatantly wrong. You hang out with Victor Orban and quote crazy sleazy Russian military bloggers named “BIG SERGE” in your writings. You’ve claimed to the New Yorker that Putin has never lied to other world leaders, you even said that Hitler only ever lied once or twice to other world leaders? You’ve burnt your credibility, why should we take anything you say seriously ever again?
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