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The [[reverse straw man]] fallacy is the opposite of the [[straw man fallacy]]. It is also called an '''iron man fallacy''' [https://effectiviology.com/straw-man-arguments-recognize-counter-use/#Iron-man_arguments] or a '''Motte-and-bailey fallacy'''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy].
The [[reverse straw man]] fallacy is the opposite of the [[straw man fallacy]]. It is also called an '''iron man fallacy''' [https://effectiviology.com/straw-man-arguments-recognize-counter-use/#Iron-man_arguments] (not to be confused with '''steel man''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#Steelmanning]) or a '''Motte-and-bailey fallacy'''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy].
Consider two propositions:
Consider two propositions:


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It’s a form of [[non sequitur]]: accepting A would imply to accept B, or a form of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation equivocation].
It’s a form of [[non sequitur]]: accepting A would imply to accept B, or a form of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation equivocation].


In its extreme form ([[antonym fallacy]]), proposition B is the exact opposite of A, thus akin to the [[Schrödinger’s razor]] fallacy.
In its extreme form ([[antonym fallacy]]), proposition B is the exact opposite of A, thus akin to the [[Schrödinger’s razor]] fallacy (defending A and non-A at the same time).


The reverse straw man then consists in getting a proposition accepted by arguing in favor of its opposite, by playing on definitions, using intermediate [[anti-concept]]ual definitions ([[definition by non-essentials]]) or even [[intellectual package dealing]]s.
The reverse straw man then consists in getting a proposition accepted by arguing in favor of its opposite, by playing on definitions, using intermediate [[anti-concept]]ual definitions ([[definition by non-essentials]]) or even [[intellectual package dealing]]s.


= Exemples =
= Examples =


== [[barking cat]] ==
== [[barking cat]] ==
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* [https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/borders-limit-freedom-but-promote-liberty/ Borders Limit Freedom but Promote Liberty]
* [https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/borders-limit-freedom-but-promote-liberty/ Borders Limit Freedom but Promote Liberty]
* [https://mises.org/blog/we-need-more-borders-and-more-states We Need More Borders and More States]
* [https://mises.org/blog/we-need-more-borders-and-more-states We Need More Borders and More States]
== imperialism, anti-war ==
* [[Kremlintarianism]]
== proper government ==
* [[Proper government]]


= See also =
= See also =


* [[No true Scotsman]]
* [[No true Scotsman]]
* [[Proper government]]
* http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/170907/opposite-logical-fallacy-to-straw-man
* http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/170907/opposite-logical-fallacy-to-straw-man
* https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Motte_and_bailey
* https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Motte_and_bailey

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The reverse straw man fallacy is the opposite of the straw man fallacy. It is also called an iron man fallacy [1] (not to be confused with steel man [2]) or a Motte-and-bailey fallacy[3]. Consider two propositions:

  • A, which is hard to attack ;
  • B, which is easy to attack.

Whereas the straw man fallacy consists in attacking proposition A by attacking instead proposition B, the reverse straw man consists in defending proposition B by defending proposition A.

It’s a form of non sequitur: accepting A would imply to accept B, or a form of equivocation.

In its extreme form (antonym fallacy), proposition B is the exact opposite of A, thus akin to the Schrödinger’s razor fallacy (defending A and non-A at the same time).

The reverse straw man then consists in getting a proposition accepted by arguing in favor of its opposite, by playing on definitions, using intermediate anti-conceptual definitions (definition by non-essentials) or even intellectual package dealings.

Examples

barking cat

borders

examples

imperialism, anti-war

proper government

See also