Russian invasion of Ukraine/US Aid to Ukraine: Difference between revisions
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* [https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/10/sending-fighter-jets-to-ukraine-raises-the-specter-of-the-cold-war/ Sending Fighter Jets To Ukraine Raises The Specter Of The Cold War] “The proposed arms shipments are significantly less provocative than the Soviets killing Americans in North Korea and Vietnam.” [https://twitter.com/ChuckDeVore/status/1634976779097239552] | * [https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/10/sending-fighter-jets-to-ukraine-raises-the-specter-of-the-cold-war/ Sending Fighter Jets To Ukraine Raises The Specter Of The Cold War] “The proposed arms shipments are significantly less provocative than the Soviets killing Americans in North Korea and Vietnam.” [https://twitter.com/ChuckDeVore/status/1634976779097239552] | ||
* [https://twitter.com/rynkrynk/status/1603337741294600194 It’s just so damn surreal to go online and see tweets about Russians setting up literal torture chambers for CHILDREN and then also tweets from annoyed “middle-class American taxpayers” who are pissed of that a tiny fraction of their taxes is helping us end this nightmare sooner. Torture chambers. For kids. Think about it, then think about your own kids (or, idk, about your younger sibling or even just about yourself as a kid) and stop whining and harassing Ukrainians online.] | |||
== Benefits for the USA == | == Benefits for the USA == | ||
Revision as of 02:26, 5 June 2023
1994: “you give your nukes to russia, they’ll promise not to invade you. deal?”
2005: arms destruction
2014-2017: non-lethal aid
- Ukraine president secures U.S. military aid but not weapons, September 18, 2014
- Poroshenko asks Obama for weapons, obtains blankets, September 19, 2014
- Fact-checking Trump’s claim that Obama gave Ukraine ‘pillows and sheets’ (fact-check: true)
- “U.S. hands over armored military vehicles to Ukraine”, March 25, 2015 “The U.S. aid for Ukraine’s army will include 30 heavily armored Humvees and 200 other regular Humvees, as well as small drones, radios, counter-mortar radars and other equipment. All of the aid is nonlethal, and the drones are not armed.”
2017-2021
2022-2023
- Randy Mott, “There is a major misconception the US is providing a big majority of the aid to UKR. This is only true of mil aid & because only the US had unused stores of the necessary eqpt. ”, March 7, 2023 (thread) (pdf)
2023
Objections and counter-arguments
- Sending Fighter Jets To Ukraine Raises The Specter Of The Cold War “The proposed arms shipments are significantly less provocative than the Soviets killing Americans in North Korea and Vietnam.” [2]
Benefits for the USA
- Timothy Snyder, “I have been hearing the idea from some Republicans that Ukrainian resistance comes at a cost to Americans. Nothing could be more wrong. Ukrainian resistance provides extraordinary security benefits to Americans” (thread) (pdf)
Ideas
Opinion polls
Other countries’ aid
Estonia
More
- How successive U.S. administrations resisted arming Ukraine, March 5, 2022
- Seeks US Weapons at Middle East Arms Expo, February 24, 2014
- “U.S. Humvees Arrive In Ukraine”, March 26, 2015 “Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko welcomed the first 10 Humvees provided by the U.S. as part of non-lethal military aid. The vehicles were handed over to units which are fighting Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine. It’s expected that a total of 230 Humvees will be delivered within the next 45 days.”
- Randy Mott, “A new theme is to force Ukraine to make peace. This is undoubtedly one of the dumbest ideas to emerge from the war. The Gaetz proposal would cut off US aid (now audited)to try to force a peace deal. This thread sets out the reasons why this is nonsense”, February 10, 2023 (thread) (pdf) (Matt Gaetz)
