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* [https://twitter.com/dzygaspaw/status/1683777751097159680 Have you ever wondered what Donbas really is?! Read this - we are Ukrainians and have team members from that region. We will explain everything you need to know about “Donbas” and its complicated story 🧵]
https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1659803202093563905
https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1663232784171778069
* [https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1653391410362548225 Did Ukraine kill 14K ethnic Russians prior to 2022? This is one of the justification by the Russians for the invasion: to protect ethnic Russians. Recently I have seen a reappearance of this argument. So, we must refute it again, with facts.]
https://ukraine.un.org/sites/default/files/2022-02/Conflict-related%20civilian%20casualties%20as%20of%2031%20December%202021%20%28rev%2027%20January%202022%29%20corr%20EN_0.pdf
https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1619066732798447616
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlI35JIPR8Y Uncovering the Mystery of Novorossiya: What Westerners Need to Know About Pro-Russian Separatists]
* [[Pekka Kallioniemi]], “[https://twitter.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1611980244252258304 In today’s #vatnik soup and another edition of “You pronounced this nonsense, not me” we’re going to talk about the “genocide in Donbas” disinformation and propaganda trope, that’s been debunked many times but just refuses to die in the social media sphere.]”, January 8, 2023 ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1611980244252258304.html thread]) ([https://liberpedia.net/threads/Pekka-Kallioniemi-Donbas.pdf pdf]) ([https://vatniksoup.com/en/soups/67 website])
* [https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/07/14/victims-of-donbas-genocide-were-paid-actors-prigozhins-fired-trolls-reveal/ Victims of “Donbas genocide” were paid actors, Prigozhin’s fired trolls reveal]
* [[Madi Kapparov]], [https://twitter.com/MuKappa/status/1598132925085913088 There are no separatists in the Donbas. The War in Donbas was an elaborate russian ploy. Some global media sources keep referencing the so-called DPR and LPR patched russian troops as “pro-russian separatists.” In this thread, I aim to explain why it is russian propaganda.] ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1598132925085913088.html thread]) ([https://liberpedia.net/threads/Kapparov-Donbas.pdf pdf])
* [https://twitter.com/jpop_el_jefe/status/1644147047187075072 Today marks nine years since pro-russia militants in Donbas seized government buildings in Donetsk and Luhansk, starting the war that would escalate into the current invasion. I think it’s time to remind people of certain truths about this war. (short 🧵)]
* [https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/12/16/fraud-conviction-appears-to-reveal-russian-troop-deployment-in-east-ukraine-a75835 Fraud Conviction Appears to Reveal Russian Troop Deployment in East Ukraine]
* [https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/explaining-coup-in-luhansk/ Explaining the coup in Luhansk]
* [https://mkaradjis.com/2022/06/16/on-the-fantastic-tale-that-the-ukrainian-army-killed-14000-ethnic-russians-in-donbas-between-2014-and-2022/ On the fantastic tale that “the Ukrainian army killed 14,000 ethnic Russians in Donbas between 2014 and 2022”]
* [[Igor Kyivskyi]], “[https://twitter.com/Igor_from_Kyiv_/status/1568902366262398976 This is how it all started in 2014. Armed terrorists and mercenaries of the Russian. They began to seize administrations in eastern Ukraine. Ukraine launched an antiterrorist operation. Someone else wants to say that it was not Russia that started everything?]” ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1568902366262398976.html thread]) ([https://liberpedia.net/threads/Igor-Kyivskyi-How-it-started.pdf pdf])
* [https://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/12/former-pow-even-demons-in-hell-are-kinder-than-dnr-fighters/ Former POW: “Even demons in hell are kinder than DNR fighters…”]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esR81nHY_V4
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https://khpg.org/en/1565889311
https://khpg.org/en/1565889311
https://twitter.com/LprTweets/status/1575730267872186368 As far as we know, Russia started training separatists to split Ukraine back in 2006.
then Russia’s relations with NATO were still excellent
As far as we know, Russia started training separatists to split Ukraine back in 2006.
then Russia’s relations with NATO were still excellent
https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/russia-at-war/putin-advisor-regime-ukraine-invasions/
llarionov is currently a Russian and economic expert, but his knowledge of the inner workings of the Kremlin and Putin comes from five years of working directly with the regime.
“Political regime became non-free. It became an authoritarian regime with a very high level of repression,” he told NewsNation.
Illarionov was Putin’s chief economic advisor up until 2005. When he resigned, he left the country and became an outspoken critic.
He says Putin has been planning the months-long invasion for years.
“He’s had this idea, this goal for last two decades. Even when I was his advisor, I was able to watch to see myself his intentions,” Illarionov said.
Illarionov says Putin could never accept the fact that Ukraine was its own sovereign nation separate from Russia. He believes the invasion is step one in Putin’s grand plan of reunifying the whole former Soviet Union.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1533119410138927104 Pundits on Russian state TV begrudgingly acknowledge that Russian-speakers in Ukraine they supposedly came to "liberate" are actually fighting against invading Russian troops. Instead of leaving, they advocate breaking Ukraine's will to resist by erasing Ukraine's modern history.
* https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/russian-imperial-movement
* https://twitter.com/Demcytheater/status/1600928275714277378
* https://twitter.com/ne_vluchiv/status/1522277293158187012
[[Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#2014]]
* https://twitter.com/Mr_Anderton_/status/1626630714211827712
* https://twitter.com/Igor_from_Kyiv_/status/1622963372697190405
* [https://twitter.com/Lavrovskyi/status/1630217117705416705 Ukrainian nazis have been killing the poor “people of Donbas” for 8 years, but russia came to save them. What an idiot one should be to believe in such bullshit.]
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-donetsk-luhansk-/31479593.html
https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/status/1668565655920967682
== 2014 ==
https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1661787669461106688
https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1662011013993209856
* [https://twitter.com/ne_vluchiv/status/1522277293158187012 У кого в голове ещё остались сомнения по поводу того, кто восемь лет бомбил Донбасс? На видео наёмники РФ и российские РСЗО Град, с помощью которых были одновременно обстреляны позиции ЗСУ и жилые кварталы Донецкой области.] ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1522277293158187012.html thread])
== Novorossia ==
* [[Donbas Samizdat]], “[https://twitter.com/PsyopRobot/status/1631769715050946562 Westerners don’t believe me about the Donbas mid-evil open trials & martial laws back in 2014-16. Banned women from wearing makeup & going to bars & excusing rape in many cases, open air torture, age of consent to 13, enslavement & public executions of POWs]”, March 3, 2023 ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1631769715050946562.html thread]) ([https://liberpedia.net/threads/DonbasSamizdat-Novorossia.pdf pdf])
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ijS358QGts “Novorossia” “court” and views of woman’s role (with English subs)]
== Donetsk ==
* [https://twitter.com/bektour/status/1661042760562925568 On this day, exactly nine years ago, I was in Donetsk, Ukraine, witnessing the beginning of Russia’s war on Ukraine. Let me share with you what I saw back then. A thread on what Donetsk was like nine years ago. All photos and videos in this thread are mine. 🧵]
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1661042760562925568.html
* https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1666364060491808768
== Donetsk/Antisemitism ==
* [https://khpg.org/en/1397783108 The Donetsk anti-Semitic leaflets – what should not be overlooked]
* [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27088183 Ukraine crisis: Donetsk anti-Semitic leaflets stir old fears]
== russian occupation ==
* https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2022/russia-fsb-intelligence-ukraine-war/
** https://twitter.com/joelw_762/status/1670392534995017730
https://twitter.com/DonbasDIY/status/1650695797862805505
https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores
== 8 years of shelling ==
* “[https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1672157866222923781 Ukraine has not bombed Donetsk for 8 years, only Russian positions. The Armed Forces of Ukraine were not going to attack Russia with NATO soldiers, the Russian Ministry of Defense is deceiving the public and the president.]”
== 14,000 dead ==
https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1653391410362548225
* [https://twitter.com/shoots_z/status/1614380679050977281 Another important point: 🇷🇺propaganda emphasises “thousands killed by Ukrainian shelling” but in recent years, over half of civilian deaths in Donbas were due to landmines & unexploded munitions (17/27 deaths in 2019, 17/26 in 2020, 12/25 in 2021 so 59% of deaths in those years)]
== plunder ==
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672177488535977984
== "civil war" ==
https://informnapalm.org/en/ukrainian-cyber-troops-hack-servers-russian-federation-evidence-russian-military-actions-revealed/
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0BxsQ108is142Q1dMcVNUc3J2U28?resourcekey=0-XwmgHFNhC8nD_H950uK1nA
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putins-ukraine-war-russian-mp-recalls-efforts-to-push-civil-war-myth/

Latest revision as of 23:01, 19 February 2024


https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1659803202093563905

https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1663232784171778069

https://ukraine.un.org/sites/default/files/2022-02/Conflict-related%20civilian%20casualties%20as%20of%2031%20December%202021%20%28rev%2027%20January%202022%29%20corr%20EN_0.pdf

https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1619066732798447616

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esR81nHY_V4

https://khpg.org/en/1608809608

https://khpg.org/en/1565889311


https://twitter.com/LprTweets/status/1575730267872186368 As far as we know, Russia started training separatists to split Ukraine back in 2006.

then Russia’s relations with NATO were still excellent


As far as we know, Russia started training separatists to split Ukraine back in 2006.

then Russia’s relations with NATO were still excellent

https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/russia-at-war/putin-advisor-regime-ukraine-invasions/

llarionov is currently a Russian and economic expert, but his knowledge of the inner workings of the Kremlin and Putin comes from five years of working directly with the regime.

“Political regime became non-free. It became an authoritarian regime with a very high level of repression,” he told NewsNation.

Illarionov was Putin’s chief economic advisor up until 2005. When he resigned, he left the country and became an outspoken critic.

He says Putin has been planning the months-long invasion for years.

“He’s had this idea, this goal for last two decades. Even when I was his advisor, I was able to watch to see myself his intentions,” Illarionov said.

Illarionov says Putin could never accept the fact that Ukraine was its own sovereign nation separate from Russia. He believes the invasion is step one in Putin’s grand plan of reunifying the whole former Soviet Union.

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1533119410138927104 Pundits on Russian state TV begrudgingly acknowledge that Russian-speakers in Ukraine they supposedly came to "liberate" are actually fighting against invading Russian troops. Instead of leaving, they advocate breaking Ukraine's will to resist by erasing Ukraine's modern history.



Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#2014

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-donetsk-luhansk-/31479593.html

https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/status/1668565655920967682

2014

https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1661787669461106688

https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1662011013993209856

Novorossia

Donetsk

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1661042760562925568.html

Donetsk/Antisemitism


russian occupation


https://twitter.com/DonbasDIY/status/1650695797862805505

https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores

8 years of shelling

14,000 dead

https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1653391410362548225


plunder

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672177488535977984


"civil war"

https://informnapalm.org/en/ukrainian-cyber-troops-hack-servers-russian-federation-evidence-russian-military-actions-revealed/

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0BxsQ108is142Q1dMcVNUc3J2U28?resourcekey=0-XwmgHFNhC8nD_H950uK1nA


https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putins-ukraine-war-russian-mp-recalls-efforts-to-push-civil-war-myth/