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* [https://theconversation.com/ukraine-the-history-behind-russias-claim-that-nato-promised-not-to-expand-to-the-east-177085 Ukraine: the history behind Russia’s claim that Nato promised not to expand to the east] | * [https://theconversation.com/ukraine-the-history-behind-russias-claim-that-nato-promised-not-to-expand-to-the-east-177085 Ukraine: the history behind Russia’s claim that Nato promised not to expand to the east] | ||
* https://legacy.npr.org/news/specials/putin/nprinterview.html | |||
* [https://youtu.be/lWK_euAwrMk The REAL Reason NATO Expanded Towards Russia’s Borders] | |||
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Latest revision as of 15:52, 21 December 2024
“ Does the right to sovereignty also mean for Georgia and Ukraine, for example, that Russia would have nothing against their accession to the EU and NATO?
Sergey Lavrov: That is their choice. We respect the right of every state - including our neighbors - to choose its own partners, to decide for itself which organization to join. We assume that they will consider for themselves how they develop their politics and economy and which partners and allies they rely on.
- — “Russland öffnet Ukraine den Weg in die Nato”, January 2, 2005
Founding and goals
“ It is often said that the North Atlantic Treaty Organization was founded in response to the threat posed by the Soviet Union. This is only partially true. In fact, the Alliance’s creation was part of a broader effort to serve three purposes: deterring Soviet expansionism, forbidding the revival of nationalist militarism in Europe through a strong North American presence on the continent, and encouraging European political integration.
- The North Atlantic Treaty, Washington D.C., April 4, 1949
Enlargement
“ A careful evaluation of recent history illustrates that the claim that US and NATO expansion threatens Moscow’s existence is an exaggeration. That Russia would inflate fears of NATO to pursue its global aspirations is understandable. What is less comprehensible is the degree to which influential Western thinkers, particularly on the anti-imperial US left, have promoted this narrative. This paper will examine the work of prominent US anti-imperial leftists who view the Russo-Ukrainian war through a US-centric lens, a conceptual framework that distorts the historical record. It will first document how these commentators’ explanatory models give outsized attention to US maneuvers, while neglecting regional fault lines, Russian irredentism and historical nuance. Consequently, many US anti-imperial leftists conclude that the US/NATO alliance is to blame for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. This paper will explore Russia-NATO interactions and Moscow’s imperial discourse to demonstrate that the blame NATO stance obfuscates the historical record.
“ This leads us to the second point: NATO did not expand into “Eastern Europe.” Czechia, Poland, and Hungary in 1999 and the Baltic countries among others in 2004 actively sought membership in the alliance. This is not just semantics. For the historical reasons mentioned above, the West has been a desired political direction associated with prosperity, democracy, and freedom—despite the limitations of Western liberal capitalist democracies and the implementation of that model in Eastern Europe. Being at the receiving end of Russian imperialism, many Eastern Europeans looked forward to membership in NATO as a means of securing their sovereignty. NATO, in other words, would not have “expanded” into Eastern Europe if the Eastern European nations had not wanted it and actively pursued it.
As 2020 Pew Research Center data show, Eastern European members generally see NATO favorably. Fifty-three percent of Czechs have a positive opinion about NATO, as do 77 percent of Lithuanians. NATO’s most enthusiastic supporters are Poles, with 88 percent supporting the alliance. Fifty-three percent of Ukrainians view NATO favorably, compared to 23 who view it negatively. …
In the westsplaining framework, the concerns of Russia are recognized but those of Eastern Europe are not. This, again, mirrors the Russian line that “Ukraine’s current regime lacks any sovereignty,” which of course also operates within a framework inherited from the bipolar world of the Cold War. Eastern Europe is something that can be explained but isn’t worth engaging with.
- — Jan Smoleński and Jan Dutkiewicz, “The American Pundits Who Can’t Resist ‘Westsplaining ’Ukraine”, March 4, 2022
“ Does the right to sovereignty also mean for Georgia and Ukraine, for example, that Russia would have nothing against their accession to the EU and NATO?
Sergey Lavrov: That is their choice. We respect the right of every state - including our neighbors - to choose its own partners, to decide for itself which organization to join. We assume that they will consider for themselves how they develop their politics and economy and which partners and allies they rely on.
- — “Russland öffnet Ukraine den Weg in die Nato”, 2. Januar 2005
“ I am absolutely convinced that Ukraine will not shy away from the processes of expanding interaction with NATO and the Western allies as a whole. Ukraine has its own relations with NATO; there is the Ukraine-NATO Council. At the end of the day the decision is to be taken by NATO and Ukraine. It is a matter for those two partners.
- Lionel Page, “It is regrettable that many Western commentators repeated Putin’s narrative that the problem came from an aggressive NATO expansion aimed at encircling Russia. Time for a reset of narratives. Here are some simple insights, informed by our work on the game theory of alliances. 🧵”, February 25, 2022 (thread) (pdf)
- Pekka Kallioniemi, “In today’s #vatnik soup and the newest edition of “You pronounced this nonsense, not me”, I’ll talk about the NATO expansion and how - according to Russia - NATO and the West are actually at fault for the war in Ukraine.”, March 14, 2022 (thread) (pdf)
- Tymofiy Mylovanov, “Jeffrey Sachs new article: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked. He claims that the war was provoked by NATO expansion and started in 2022 with the US-sponsored violent coup. Again all his arguments are false, but they should be taken seriously and must be refuted.” (thread)
Poland
Baltics
- https://twitter.com/BadBalticTakes/status/1567068652729516032
- “Let’s talk about why the Baltic nations are not ‘former Soviet states’.” (thread) (pdf)
- https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/tim-kaine-and-cory-gardner-why-we-stand-nato/586456/
“I have the honor to offer my best wishes to the signatories of the North Atlantic Pact, and to express my confidence that they, inspired by the ideals of democracy, of individual liberty, and the rule of law, will strive relentlessly for peace with justice, which excludes peace at any price. Therefore, I express the belief that countries which were forcibly deprived of self-government and independence will benefit by this noble endeavor.”
Ukraine
russia
Treaties with russia
“ The member States of NATO reiterate that they have no intention, no plan and no reason to deploy nuclear weapons on the territory of new members, nor any need to change any aspect of NATO’s nuclear posture or nuclear policy - and do not foresee any future need to do so.
- — Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security between NATO and the Russian Federation, signed in Paris, France, May 27, 1997
- Lavrov Backs NATO Using Ulyanovsk Base, March 14, 2012
Popular support - votes and polls
Membership votes
1949: "The Senate [...] approved the treaty on July 21 by a vote of 82 to 13"
- NATO Seen Favorably Across Member States
- If you could vote for or against your country’s membership in NATO, how would you vote?
- NATO pre-Summit polling results show historically high level of support for NATO, 22 June 2022
- Poll: Europeans from NATO countries embrace US defense
Political support
Here is a list of the GOP lawmakers who voted “no”[5]
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2022364
Andy Biggs, Arizona Dan Bishop, North Carolina Lauren Boebert, Colorado Madison Cawthorn, North Carolina Ben Cline, Virginia Michael Cloud, Texas Warren Davidson, Ohio Matt Gaetz, Florida Bob Good, Virginia Marjorie Taylor Greene, Georgia Morgan Griffith, Virginia, Thomas Massie, Kentucky Tom McClintock, California Mary Miller, Illinois Ralph Norman, South Carolina, Matt Rosendale, Montana Chip Roy, Texas Jefferson Van Drew, New Jersey
USA
- Support for US Commitment to NATO at 48-Year High, September 14, 2022
UK
Finland
- Finnish Support for NATO Membership Jumps to 76% in Latest Poll, May 9, 2022
- Poll: Citizens’ willingness to defend Finland, support for Nato hit all time high
- Finnish Support For NATO Membership Rises To 78 Percent, Poll Shows, November 23, 2022
- Yle poll: Support for Nato membership soars to 76%
- Most Finns, Swedes Approve of NATO’s Leadership
Ukraine
- Record 83% of Ukrainians want NATO membership -poll, October 4, 2022
- Putin’s plan to stop Ukraine turning to the west has failed – our survey shows support for Nato is at an all-time high January 4, 2023
russian troops
Finnish border
Norwegian border
Kaliningrad
russian invasion of Ukraine
- Steven Pifer, “One. More. Time. It’s not about NATO”
Funding
- Funding NATO: US contribution is around $560 million per year
Interventions
More
- https://news.usni.org/2022/02/02/u-s-offered-russians-aegis-ashore-inspections-to-ease-ukraine-tensions-more-american-troops-headed-to-europe [6]
- Exclusive: As war began, Putin rejected a Ukraine peace deal recommended by aide: “Vladimir Putin’s chief envoy on Ukraine told the Russian leader as the war began that he had struck a provisional deal with Kyiv that would satisfy Russia’s demand that Ukraine stay out of NATO, but Putin rejected it and pressed ahead with his military campaign, according to three people close to the Russian leadership”
