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* [https://twitter.com/dzygaspaw/status/1683777751097159680 Have you ever wondered what Donbas really is?! Read this - we are Ukrainians and have team members from that region. We will explain everything you need to know about “Donbas” and its complicated story 🧵] | |||
https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1659803202093563905 | https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1659803202093563905 | ||
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* [https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1653391410362548225 Did Ukraine kill 14K ethnic Russians prior to 2022? This is one of the justification by the Russians for the invasion: to protect ethnic Russians. Recently I have seen a reappearance of this argument. So, we must refute it again, with facts.] | * [https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1653391410362548225 Did Ukraine kill 14K ethnic Russians prior to 2022? This is one of the justification by the Russians for the invasion: to protect ethnic Russians. Recently I have seen a reappearance of this argument. So, we must refute it again, with facts.] | ||
https://ukraine.un.org/sites/default/files/2022-02/Conflict-related%20civilian%20casualties%20as%20of%2031%20December%202021%20%28rev%2027%20January%202022%29%20corr%20EN_0.pdf | |||
https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1619066732798447616 | https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1619066732798447616 | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlI35JIPR8Y Uncovering the Mystery of Novorossiya: What Westerners Need to Know About Pro-Russian Separatists] | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlI35JIPR8Y Uncovering the Mystery of Novorossiya: What Westerners Need to Know About Pro-Russian Separatists] | ||
* [[Pekka Kallioniemi]], “[https://twitter.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1611980244252258304 In today’s #vatnik soup and another edition of “You pronounced this nonsense, not me” we’re going to talk about the “genocide in Donbas” disinformation and propaganda trope, that’s been debunked many times but just refuses to die in the social media sphere.]”, January 8, 2023 ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1611980244252258304.html thread]) ([https://liberpedia.net/threads/Pekka-Kallioniemi-Donbas.pdf pdf]) ([https://vatniksoup.com/en/soups/67 website]) | |||
* [https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/07/14/victims-of-donbas-genocide-were-paid-actors-prigozhins-fired-trolls-reveal/ Victims of “Donbas genocide” were paid actors, Prigozhin’s fired trolls reveal] | |||
* [[Madi Kapparov]], [https://twitter.com/MuKappa/status/1598132925085913088 There are no separatists in the Donbas. The War in Donbas was an elaborate russian ploy. Some global media sources keep referencing the so-called DPR and LPR patched russian troops as “pro-russian separatists.” In this thread, I aim to explain why it is russian propaganda.] ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1598132925085913088.html thread]) ([https://liberpedia.net/threads/Kapparov-Donbas.pdf pdf]) | * [[Madi Kapparov]], [https://twitter.com/MuKappa/status/1598132925085913088 There are no separatists in the Donbas. The War in Donbas was an elaborate russian ploy. Some global media sources keep referencing the so-called DPR and LPR patched russian troops as “pro-russian separatists.” In this thread, I aim to explain why it is russian propaganda.] ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1598132925085913088.html thread]) ([https://liberpedia.net/threads/Kapparov-Donbas.pdf pdf]) | ||
* [https://twitter.com/jpop_el_jefe/status/1644147047187075072 Today marks nine years since pro-russia militants in Donbas seized government buildings in Donetsk and Luhansk, starting the war that would escalate into the current invasion. I think | * [https://twitter.com/jpop_el_jefe/status/1644147047187075072 Today marks nine years since pro-russia militants in Donbas seized government buildings in Donetsk and Luhansk, starting the war that would escalate into the current invasion. I think it’s time to remind people of certain truths about this war. (short 🧵)] | ||
* [https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/12/16/fraud-conviction-appears-to-reveal-russian-troop-deployment-in-east-ukraine-a75835 Fraud Conviction Appears to Reveal Russian Troop Deployment in East Ukraine] | * [https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/12/16/fraud-conviction-appears-to-reveal-russian-troop-deployment-in-east-ukraine-a75835 Fraud Conviction Appears to Reveal Russian Troop Deployment in East Ukraine] | ||
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Illarionov says Putin could never accept the fact that Ukraine was its own sovereign nation separate from Russia. He believes the invasion is step one in Putin’s grand plan of reunifying the whole former Soviet Union. | Illarionov says Putin could never accept the fact that Ukraine was its own sovereign nation separate from Russia. He believes the invasion is step one in Putin’s grand plan of reunifying the whole former Soviet Union. | ||
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1533119410138927104 | https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1533119410138927104 Pundits on Russian state TV begrudgingly acknowledge that Russian-speakers in Ukraine they supposedly came to "liberate" are actually fighting against invading Russian troops. Instead of leaving, they advocate breaking Ukraine's will to resist by erasing Ukraine's modern history. | ||
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https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-donetsk-luhansk-/31479593.html | https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-donetsk-luhansk-/31479593.html | ||
https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/status/1668565655920967682 | |||
== 2014 == | == 2014 == | ||
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https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1662011013993209856 | https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1662011013993209856 | ||
* [https://twitter.com/ne_vluchiv/status/1522277293158187012 У кого в голове ещё остались сомнения по поводу того, кто восемь лет бомбил Донбасс? На видео наёмники РФ и российские РСЗО Град, с помощью которых были одновременно обстреляны позиции ЗСУ и жилые кварталы Донецкой области.] ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1522277293158187012.html thread]) | |||
== Novorossia == | == Novorossia == | ||
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* [[Donbas Samizdat]], “[https://twitter.com/PsyopRobot/status/1631769715050946562 Westerners don’t believe me about the Donbas mid-evil open trials & martial laws back in 2014-16. Banned women from wearing makeup & going to bars & excusing rape in many cases, open air torture, age of consent to 13, enslavement & public executions of POWs]”, March 3, 2023 ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1631769715050946562.html thread]) ([https://liberpedia.net/threads/DonbasSamizdat-Novorossia.pdf pdf]) | * [[Donbas Samizdat]], “[https://twitter.com/PsyopRobot/status/1631769715050946562 Westerners don’t believe me about the Donbas mid-evil open trials & martial laws back in 2014-16. Banned women from wearing makeup & going to bars & excusing rape in many cases, open air torture, age of consent to 13, enslavement & public executions of POWs]”, March 3, 2023 ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1631769715050946562.html thread]) ([https://liberpedia.net/threads/DonbasSamizdat-Novorossia.pdf pdf]) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ijS358QGts | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ijS358QGts “Novorossia” “court” and views of woman’s role (with English subs)] | ||
== Donetsk == | == Donetsk == | ||
* [https://twitter.com/bektour/status/1661042760562925568 On this day, exactly nine years ago, I was in Donetsk, Ukraine, witnessing the beginning of | * [https://twitter.com/bektour/status/1661042760562925568 On this day, exactly nine years ago, I was in Donetsk, Ukraine, witnessing the beginning of Russia’s war on Ukraine. Let me share with you what I saw back then. A thread on what Donetsk was like nine years ago. All photos and videos in this thread are mine. 🧵] | ||
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1661042760562925568.html | https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1661042760562925568.html | ||
* https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1666364060491808768 | |||
== Donetsk/Antisemitism == | == Donetsk/Antisemitism == | ||
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* [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27088183 Ukraine crisis: Donetsk anti-Semitic leaflets stir old fears] | * [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27088183 Ukraine crisis: Donetsk anti-Semitic leaflets stir old fears] | ||
== russian occupation == | |||
* https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2022/russia-fsb-intelligence-ukraine-war/ | |||
** https://twitter.com/joelw_762/status/1670392534995017730 | |||
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https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores | https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores | ||
== 8 years of shelling == | |||
* “[https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1672157866222923781 Ukraine has not bombed Donetsk for 8 years, only Russian positions. The Armed Forces of Ukraine were not going to attack Russia with NATO soldiers, the Russian Ministry of Defense is deceiving the public and the president.]” | |||
== 14,000 dead == | |||
https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1653391410362548225 | |||
* [https://twitter.com/shoots_z/status/1614380679050977281 Another important point: 🇷🇺propaganda emphasises “thousands killed by Ukrainian shelling” but in recent years, over half of civilian deaths in Donbas were due to landmines & unexploded munitions (17/27 deaths in 2019, 17/26 in 2020, 12/25 in 2021 so 59% of deaths in those years)] | |||
== plunder == | |||
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672177488535977984 | |||
== "civil war" == | |||
https://informnapalm.org/en/ukrainian-cyber-troops-hack-servers-russian-federation-evidence-russian-military-actions-revealed/ | |||
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0BxsQ108is142Q1dMcVNUc3J2U28?resourcekey=0-XwmgHFNhC8nD_H950uK1nA | |||
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putins-ukraine-war-russian-mp-recalls-efforts-to-push-civil-war-myth/ |
Latest revision as of 22:01, 19 February 2024
https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1659803202093563905
https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1663232784171778069
https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1619066732798447616
- Pekka Kallioniemi, “In today’s #vatnik soup and another edition of “You pronounced this nonsense, not me” we’re going to talk about the “genocide in Donbas” disinformation and propaganda trope, that’s been debunked many times but just refuses to die in the social media sphere.”, January 8, 2023 (thread) (pdf) (website)
- Madi Kapparov, There are no separatists in the Donbas. The War in Donbas was an elaborate russian ploy. Some global media sources keep referencing the so-called DPR and LPR patched russian troops as “pro-russian separatists.” In this thread, I aim to explain why it is russian propaganda. (thread) (pdf)
- Igor Kyivskyi, “This is how it all started in 2014. Armed terrorists and mercenaries of the Russian. They began to seize administrations in eastern Ukraine. Ukraine launched an antiterrorist operation. Someone else wants to say that it was not Russia that started everything?” (thread) (pdf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esR81nHY_V4
https://khpg.org/en/1608809608
https://khpg.org/en/1565889311
https://twitter.com/LprTweets/status/1575730267872186368 As far as we know, Russia started training separatists to split Ukraine back in 2006.
then Russia’s relations with NATO were still excellent
As far as we know, Russia started training separatists to split Ukraine back in 2006.
then Russia’s relations with NATO were still excellent
https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/russia-at-war/putin-advisor-regime-ukraine-invasions/
llarionov is currently a Russian and economic expert, but his knowledge of the inner workings of the Kremlin and Putin comes from five years of working directly with the regime.
“Political regime became non-free. It became an authoritarian regime with a very high level of repression,” he told NewsNation.
Illarionov was Putin’s chief economic advisor up until 2005. When he resigned, he left the country and became an outspoken critic.
He says Putin has been planning the months-long invasion for years.
“He’s had this idea, this goal for last two decades. Even when I was his advisor, I was able to watch to see myself his intentions,” Illarionov said.
Illarionov says Putin could never accept the fact that Ukraine was its own sovereign nation separate from Russia. He believes the invasion is step one in Putin’s grand plan of reunifying the whole former Soviet Union.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1533119410138927104 Pundits on Russian state TV begrudgingly acknowledge that Russian-speakers in Ukraine they supposedly came to "liberate" are actually fighting against invading Russian troops. Instead of leaving, they advocate breaking Ukraine's will to resist by erasing Ukraine's modern history.
Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#2014
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-donetsk-luhansk-/31479593.html
https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/status/1668565655920967682
2014
https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1661787669461106688
https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1662011013993209856
- У кого в голове ещё остались сомнения по поводу того, кто восемь лет бомбил Донбасс? На видео наёмники РФ и российские РСЗО Град, с помощью которых были одновременно обстреляны позиции ЗСУ и жилые кварталы Донецкой области. (thread)
Novorossia
- Donbas Samizdat, “Westerners don’t believe me about the Donbas mid-evil open trials & martial laws back in 2014-16. Banned women from wearing makeup & going to bars & excusing rape in many cases, open air torture, age of consent to 13, enslavement & public executions of POWs”, March 3, 2023 (thread) (pdf)
Donetsk
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1661042760562925568.html
Donetsk/Antisemitism
russian occupation
https://twitter.com/DonbasDIY/status/1650695797862805505
https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores
8 years of shelling
14,000 dead
https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1653391410362548225
plunder
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672177488535977984