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== The vatnik ==
== The vatnik ==
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gxxi8o320o
* [[Pekka Kallioniemi]], “[https://twitter.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1672940669978001410 In today's #vatniksoup, I'll introduce an American businessman and social media figure, Elon Musk (@elonmusk). He's best-known for being the wealthiest man in the world, running companies like Tesla Inc., SpaceX and Twitter, and for parroting Kremlin's propaganda narratives.]”, June 25, 2023 ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1672940669978001410.html thread]) ([https://liberpedia.net/threads/Pekka-Kallioniemi-Elon-Musk-1.pdf pdf])
* [[Pekka Kallioniemi]], “[https://twitter.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1674360288445964288 In today’s #vatniksoup, I’ll introduce a South African-American(!) businessman and social media figure, Elon Musk (@elonmusk). He’s best-known for being the wealthiest man in the world, running Tesla Inc., SpaceX & Twitter, and for parroting Kremlin’s propaganda narratives.]”, June 28, 2023 ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1674360288445964288.html thread]) ([https://liberpedia.net/threads/Pekka-Kallioniemi-Elon-Musk-3.pdf pdf])


* [https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1576994262226702336 Let’s try this then: the will of the people who live in the Donbas & Crimea should decide whether they’re part of Russia or Ukraine]
* [https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1576994262226702336 Let’s try this then: the will of the people who live in the Donbas & Crimea should decide whether they’re part of Russia or Ukraine]
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* https://twitter.com/MelaniePodolyak/status/1650012608567672834
* https://twitter.com/MelaniePodolyak/status/1650012608567672834
* [https://twitter.com/jimstewartson/status/1665808953287012352 While the left is distracted with manufactured bullshit, the richest man in the world is hosting a panel of the worst propagandists on earth to support the worst candidate on earth for the Democratic nomination. Every single word in this Twitter Space is Kremlin propaganda. Wow.] ([[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]])
https://twitter.com/JuicyGrabs/status/1666328569264439297
https://twitter.com/OstapYarysh/status/1666272820282662915
* https://www.rt.com/news/587045-musk-zelensky-advice-counteroffensive/


=== [[Khrushchev’s mistake]] ([[:ru:ошибка Хрущева]]) ===
=== [[Khrushchev’s mistake]] ([[:ru:ошибка Хрущева]]) ===
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* [https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/10/17/fiona-hill-putin-war-00061894 Fiona Hill: ‘Elon Musk Is Transmitting a Message for Putin’]
* [https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/10/17/fiona-hill-putin-war-00061894 Fiona Hill: ‘Elon Musk Is Transmitting a Message for Putin’]
To the dismay of Pentagon officials, Musk volunteered that he had spoken with Putin personally. Another individual told me that Musk had made the same assertion in the weeks before he tweeted his pro-Russia peace plan, and had said that his consultations with the Kremlin were regular. (Musk later denied having spoken with Putin about Ukraine.) On the phone, Musk said that he was looking at his laptop and could see “the entire war unfolding” through a map of Starlink activity. “This was, like, three minutes before he said, ‘Well, I had this great conversation with Putin,’ ” the senior defense official told me. “And we were, like, ‘Oh, dear, this is not good.’ ”
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-shadow-rule
https://archive.vn/f7ITA
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.html


=== [[Euromaidan]] ===
=== [[Euromaidan]] ===
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* [https://ukrainefrontlines.com/business/does-musk-need-ukrainian-lithium-personal-motive-noticed-in-the-businessmans-peace-plan/ Does Musk need Ukrainian lithium? Personal motive noticed in the businessman’s “peace plan”]
* [https://ukrainefrontlines.com/business/does-musk-need-ukrainian-lithium-personal-motive-noticed-in-the-businessmans-peace-plan/ Does Musk need Ukrainian lithium? Personal motive noticed in the businessman’s “peace plan”]
== More ==
* [https://twitter.com/yonnimus/status/1701958853120684308 Elon has been in bed with the Russians all along.    Left  to right: Adeo Ressi, Elon Musk, Victor Progin, Slava Linkin,  Vladmir Utkin,  Konstanin Pitschkhadze, and Jim Cantrell. August 2001.]


== The wumao ==
== The wumao ==
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* [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/10/11/elon-musk-businessman-who-doesnt-know-much-about-taiwan-su Elon Musk a businessman who ‘doesn’t know much about Taiwan’: Su]
* [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/10/11/elon-musk-businessman-who-doesnt-know-much-about-taiwan-su Elon Musk a businessman who ‘doesn’t know much about Taiwan’: Su]
* [https://twitter.com/michaelsobolik/status/1701926222962266341 .⁦@elonmusk, on ⁦@theallinpod⁩: “I think I understand China well…” Then proceeds to compare Taiwan to Hawaii: “an integral part of China that is arbitrarily not part of China” He’s repeating CCP talking points with no mention of US interests.]
== The transphobe ==
https://twitter.com/TheRightPodcast/status/1665925543173439488
== The Antisemite ==
https://twitter.com/nikicaga/status/1666508571880587264
* [https://forward.com/opinion/549819/elon-musk-is-the-most-dangerous-antisemite-in-america/ Elon Musk is the most dangerous antisemite in America] [https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1666927742141493248]


== Collaboration with governments ==
== Collaboration with governments ==


* [https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-orders/ Twitter is complying with more government demands under Elon Musk]
* [https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-orders/ Twitter is complying with more government demands under Elon Musk]
== Censorship ==
https://twitter.com/krides/status/1666348562664366082
https://twitter.com/nastasiaKlimash/status/1666368013413629954


== The awful manager ==
== The awful manager ==
* https://twitter.com/broe_jake/status/1665927840582475777
** https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/technology/twitter-ad-sales-musk.html


* “[https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/26/technology/elon-musk-twitter-value.html Elon Musk Values Twitter at $20 Billion]” “The billionaire bought the social media company for $44 billion in October and took it private.” ([https://archive.is/PIoO7 archive])
* “[https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/26/technology/elon-musk-twitter-value.html Elon Musk Values Twitter at $20 Billion]” “The billionaire bought the social media company for $44 billion in October and took it private.” ([https://archive.is/PIoO7 archive])
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* https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3862643&userid=20544
* https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3862643&userid=20544
* https://twitter.com/atomicthumbs/status/1032939617404645376
* https://twitter.com/atomicthumbs/status/1032939617404645376
* https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-commentary/elon-musk-killed-twitter-one-year-1234840622/


=== Against remote work ===
=== Against remote work ===


* [https://fortune.com/2023/05/17/elon-musk-work-from-home-remote-tesla-twitter-unfair/ Elon Musk says the ‘laptop class’ needs to ‘get off their moral high horse’ when it comes to remote work]
* [https://fortune.com/2023/05/17/elon-musk-work-from-home-remote-tesla-twitter-unfair/ Elon Musk says the ‘laptop class’ needs to ‘get off their moral high horse’ when it comes to remote work]
=== Firing people and cutting cables ===
* https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/11/elon-musk-moved-twitter-servers-himself-in-the-night-new-biography-details-his-maniacal-sense-of-urgency.html
* https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1800302171130315223


== The pathetic ... something ==
== The pathetic ... something ==
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* https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3A%40AnarchoTerran%20%20%22if%20elon%20musk%22&src=typed_query
* https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3A%40AnarchoTerran%20%20%22if%20elon%20musk%22&src=typed_query
* [https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/18/opinions/elon-musk-soros-conspiracy-theories-ghitis/index.html Opinion: What happened to Elon Musk?]
* [https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/08/15/twitter-x-links-delayed/ Elon Musk’s X is throttling traffic to websites he dislikes] [https://archive.li/YF1f1]
== The awful driver ==
* [https://twitter.com/garius/status/1683511450264821760 That Time Elon Totalled his McLaren F1 While Trying to Show Off in Front of Peter Thiel 🧵]


== Twitter acquisition ==
== Twitter acquisition ==
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https://twitter.com/dim0kq/status/1580827171903635456
(https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1580827171903635456.html thread)
([https://liberpedia.net/threads/Starlink.pdf pdf])
* [[Pekka Kallioniemi]], “[https://twitter.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1673395390534631424 In today's #vatniksoup, I'll talk about Starlink. First I thought I would just add this to the second part of the @elonmusk soup, but it is such a complex topic that I think it requires a thread of its own.]”, June 26, 2023 ([https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1673395390534631424.html thread]) ([https://liberpedia.net/threads/Pekka-Kallioniemi-Elon-Musk-2-starlink.pdf pdf])


https://twitter.com/MelaniePodolyak/status/1580875153726062593
== X ==
https://twitter.com/garius/status/1683808576328937472


== More ==
== More ==
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* https://www.thedailybeast.com/musk-appears-to-accidentally-reveal-twitter-burner-account
* https://www.thedailybeast.com/musk-appears-to-accidentally-reveal-twitter-burner-account
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FGwDDc-s8 DEBUNKING ELON MUSK Pt1 (1080p)
* https://twitter.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1684470796381458432
* https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/07/27/twitter-csam-dom-lucre-elon-musk/
== Walter Isaacson biography and turning off Starlink on Crimean coast ==
* [https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status/1700748836992389628 My understanding - which I reported six months ago - is that Starlink was not only geofenced but also programmed to stop working at the kind of speeds drones work at. Ie it was active blocking.]
* [https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1700845764644098197 I reached out to a source close to the Ukrainian drone programme about these claims. They confirmed Starlink had been previously enabled in the area in question - which is why Ukraine had used USVs that relied on Starlink for navigation - and that Musk had "turned it off".]
* [https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1700833509911179604 We have two version of events from Walter Isaacson, let's call them Isaacson 1.0 and Isaacson 2.0. (Thread)]
Isaacson 1.0
* book ''Elon Musk''
* CNN article reporting on the book: [https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.html CNN Exclusive: ‘How am I in this war?’: New Musk biography offers fresh details about the billionaire’s Ukraine dilemma]
* Washington Post original article: [https://web.archive.org/web/20230907232707/https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/07/elon-musk-starlink-ukraine-russia-invasion/ Opinion  ‘How am I in this war?’: The untold story of Elon Musk’s support for Ukraine]: "When the Ukrainian military noticed that Starlink was disabled in and around Crimea, Musk got frantic calls and texts asking him to turn the coverage back on."
Isaacson 2.0
* Washington Post modified article: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/07/elon-musk-starlink-ukraine-russia-invasion/ Opinion  ‘How am I in this war?’: The untold story of Elon Musk’s support for Ukraine]: "When the Ukrainian military learned that Starlink would not allow a successful attack, Musk got frantic calls and texts asking him to turn the coverage on."
* tweet: [https://twitter.com/WalterIsaacson/status/1700342242290901361 To clarify on the Starlink issue: the Ukrainians THOUGHT coverage was enabled all the way to Crimea, but it was not. They asked Musk to enable it for their drone sub attack on the Russian fleet. Musk did not enable it, because he thought, probably correctly, that would cause a major war.]
=== comments ===
* [https://twitter.com/WalterIsaacson/status/1700342242290901361 He told the truth in his book - he says Musk disabled Starlink. He then contradicts himself after Musk (rightly) gets pilloried for turning of the system to prevent a Ukrainian attack on the BSF, obviously under pressure from Musk himself.]
* [https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1700837985409753347 The more parsimonious theory however is that Version 1.0 is correct. We got Version 2.0 because Musk was surprised by negative reaction to 1.0. He apparently expected to be acclaimed as a savior of humanity, not derided as a dupe and enabler of missile attack on Ukrianian cities.]
* https://twitter.com/sternenko/status/1703287224140181893
=== consequences ===
* https://twitter.com/i_gil_/status/1700385865204179235 At the time of @elonmusk refusal to turn on the Starlinks, the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian  Federation had already fired about 800 Kalibr missiles at 🇺🇦 cities. Due to Musk’s decision, the same fleet continued to exist and launched another 1,031 Kalibr at 🇺🇦 cities daily.
https://twitter.com/ne_vluchiv/status/1700575229632786792
Idiots - "ElOn MuSk SavEd us FroM WW3"
Reality - Elon Musk saved russian warships from Ukrainian drones, so russia could kill more civilians with Kalibr missiles during the winter
Ukrainians - Bomb it later anyway, along with Kerch Bridge, Airbases, and Moskow
=== later strikes ===
https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1701971248463466867
== Turkey ==
https://twitter.com/SimonWDC/status/1657440076803047424
== refugees ==
https://twitter.com/mfphhh/status/1708234185050124706
== more ==
https://twitter.com/jimstewartson/status/1617994530112016386
https://www.mind-war.com/p/elon-musks-eugenicist-anarcho-communist
https://twitter.com/hopeFlo55047951/status/1708889002638492084
free speech ??
https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-leaked-internal-message-suggests-musk-ordered-leftwing-account-freeze-2023-1
[[Eric John Diesel]]


[[uk: Ілон Маск]]
[[uk: Ілон Маск]]

Latest revision as of 18:47, 15 July 2024

“Elondimir Muskov, Vatnik”

Elon Musk, also known as “Elondimir Muskov”, is a vatnik and a wumao.

The owner of Twitter, he bought it for $44 billion and successfully brought down to $20 billion in six months.[1]

The vatnik

https://twitter.com/JuicyGrabs/status/1666328569264439297

https://twitter.com/OstapYarysh/status/1666272820282662915

Khrushchev’s mistake (ru:ошибка Хрущева)

October 3rd, 2022

Ukraine-Russia Peace:

- Redo elections of annexed regions under UN supervision. Russia leaves if that is will of the people.

- Crimea formally part of Russia, as it has been since 1783 (until Khrushchev’s mistake).

- Water supply to Crimea assured.

- Ukraine remains neutral.


“Khrushchev’s mistake”.

It is a bit odd when a US-based tech bro uses a phrase exclusively used within Kremlin propaganda.

Reminds me of 2000s era Kremlin trolls when they would just rant about super specific Russian policy interests in language no ordinary person would use.

“ошибка Хрущева” (Khrushchev’s mistake) is almost completely domestic, Russian language term in reference to Crimea, born from Stalinist Khrushchev’s oposition and Kremlin start using this domestically after 2014 to justify occupation of Crimea.

https://twitter.com/LTLeprikonas/status/1577535742741463040

Did Elon Musk speak with Vladimir Putin?


To the dismay of Pentagon officials, Musk volunteered that he had spoken with Putin personally. Another individual told me that Musk had made the same assertion in the weeks before he tweeted his pro-Russia peace plan, and had said that his consultations with the Kremlin were regular. (Musk later denied having spoken with Putin about Ukraine.) On the phone, Musk said that he was looking at his laptop and could see “the entire war unfolding” through a map of Starlink activity. “This was, like, three minutes before he said, ‘Well, I had this great conversation with Putin,’ ” the senior defense official told me. “And we were, like, ‘Oh, dear, this is not good.’ ”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-shadow-rule


https://archive.vn/f7ITA


https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.html

Euromaidan

Financial motives?

More

The wumao

  • Elon Musk: ‘Aren’t you entertained?’, October 7, 2022: ““My recommendation . . . would be to figure out a special administrative zone for Taiwan that is reasonably palatable, probably won’t make everyone happy. And it’s possible, and I think probably, in fact, that they could have an arrangement that’s more lenient than Hong Kong.””

The transphobe

https://twitter.com/TheRightPodcast/status/1665925543173439488

The Antisemite

https://twitter.com/nikicaga/status/1666508571880587264

Collaboration with governments


Censorship

https://twitter.com/krides/status/1666348562664366082

https://twitter.com/nastasiaKlimash/status/1666368013413629954

The awful manager

https://ez.substack.com/p/the-fraudulent-king https://twitter.com/edzitron/status/1593719112299003904

https://twitter.com/Bluemke329/status/1577581319944515584

https://twitter.com/shibacumlaude/status/1577583450957176833

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3667902-musk-said-russian-media-had-lot-of-bulls-but-some-good-points-too-after-ukraine-invasion/

Musk said Russian media had ‘lot of bulls—, but some good points too’ after Ukraine invasion


Against remote work

Firing people and cutting cables

The pathetic ... something

The awful driver

Twitter acquisition

Starlink


https://twitter.com/dim0kq/status/1580827171903635456 (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1580827171903635456.html thread) (pdf)


https://twitter.com/MelaniePodolyak/status/1580875153726062593

X

https://twitter.com/garius/status/1683808576328937472

More

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FGwDDc-s8 DEBUNKING ELON MUSK Pt1 (1080p)

Walter Isaacson biography and turning off Starlink on Crimean coast

Isaacson 1.0

Isaacson 2.0

comments

consequences

  • https://twitter.com/i_gil_/status/1700385865204179235 At the time of @elonmusk refusal to turn on the Starlinks, the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation had already fired about 800 Kalibr missiles at 🇺🇦 cities. Due to Musk’s decision, the same fleet continued to exist and launched another 1,031 Kalibr at 🇺🇦 cities daily.

https://twitter.com/ne_vluchiv/status/1700575229632786792

Idiots - "ElOn MuSk SavEd us FroM WW3"

Reality - Elon Musk saved russian warships from Ukrainian drones, so russia could kill more civilians with Kalibr missiles during the winter

Ukrainians - Bomb it later anyway, along with Kerch Bridge, Airbases, and Moskow

later strikes

https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1701971248463466867

Turkey

https://twitter.com/SimonWDC/status/1657440076803047424

refugees

https://twitter.com/mfphhh/status/1708234185050124706

more

https://twitter.com/jimstewartson/status/1617994530112016386

https://www.mind-war.com/p/elon-musks-eugenicist-anarcho-communist

https://twitter.com/hopeFlo55047951/status/1708889002638492084


free speech ??

https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-leaked-internal-message-suggests-musk-ordered-leftwing-account-freeze-2023-1


Eric John Diesel