Non-interventionism

by Tim Starr

Non-intervention: [1]

1) Failure to enforce Versailles. Result: WWII, 50 million dead.

2) Abandonment of Chiang Kai Shek. Result: Mao wins Chinese civil war, Great Leap Famine, 60 million dead.

3) Yalta, letting Stalin have eastern Europe, no rollback. Result: 50 years of Soviet slavery.

4) Vietnam: Anti-Communists de-funded in 1973. Result: Saigon & Phnom Penh fall in 1975, 4 million dead.

5) Carter drops Shah in 1979. Result: Soviet-sponsored Khomeini’s revolution, Iran-Iraq War, Iran becomes world’s biggest terror sponsor, goes to war w/ America in 1979 & still is at war w/ us decades later, mass-murdering people in Lebanon, Gaza, Syria, Scotland, Argentina, etc.

6) US drops Somoza, Sandinistas win, until forced to abide by free election results by US-backed Contras.

7) JFK promises never to oust Castro from Cuba, after cutting Bay of Pigs air support & caving in Cuban Missile Crisis. Result: More than 50 years of Cuban slavery, Cuban-sponsored guerrillas & terrorists throughout the Americas, colonization of Venezuela, Cuban puppets in power in Nicaragua, Bolivia, etc., Cuban invasion of Angola, Grenada, etc.

8) Rwanda: US refuses to let UN forces in-country stop genocide, US won’t even say “genocide,” 1.2 million Tutsis killed in weeks.

9) Afghanistan: US leaves in 1990, Taliban takes over, hosts Al Qaeda, 9/11 attacks staged from there.

10) Iraq: US wins by 2011, leaves entirely thanks to Biden, ISIS comes back to life in power vacuum.

11) Syria: US refuses to overthrow Assad, civil war breaks out, 500k dead.

12) Afghanistan: Biden pulls out all US troops before civilians, doesn’t even tell our allies there, says Ghani regime will stand. Ghani flees, Taliban takes over in days.

13) Ukraine: Biden says no response to “limited incursion,” lifts NS2 sanctions, pulls all US personnel out. Russia invades within days. Zelenskyy shames Biden into reversing course.

What good has “non-intervention” ever done?

https://twitter.com/timstarr2001/status/1707293679294042510

US abandonment of allies has been tried before:

China, 1949. Result: 60 million killed by Mao.

Vietnam, 1975. Result: 1 million killed there, another 1 million refugees, 2 million killed by Pol Pot in Cambodia.

Nicaragua, 1979: Sandinistas, Cuba's puppets, take power, civil war for a decade.

Iran, 1979: Theocracy takes power, goes to war w/ US ever since, sponsoring terrorism as far away as Argentina, becomes world's biggest sponsor of terrorism in Lebanon, Gaza, Syria, Iraq, etc.

Rwanda, 1994: 1.2 million Tutsis killed by Hutus.

Iraq, 2011: Biden fails to renew US military presence, ISIS comes back from the dead, committing genocide against the Yazidis, among other atrocities.

Afghanistan, 2021: Taliban takes back over, deaths still being counted.

https://twitter.com/timstarr2001/status/1711852387466461647

"Anti-war":

Munich: 50 million dead.

Dumping Chiang Kai-Shek: 60 million dead.

Korean Armistice: 70 years of North Korean tyranny.

Dumping South Vietnam, Laos, & Cambodia: 3 million dead, 1 million refugees.

Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon & Gaza: Hamas & Hezbollah takeover, terrorist attacks on Israel from there.

Dumping Afghanistan, 1991: Taliban wins civil war, sponsors 9/11 attacks.

Failure to overthrow Saddam, 1991: 200k Shi'ites killed, Marsh Arabs genocided.

Rwanda, 1994: UN peacekeepers banned from stopping genocide, 1.2 million Tutsis killed.

Bosnia: NATO waits until after hundreds of thousands of Muslims killed by Serbs, before finally ending it in weeks.

Iraq, 2003 - US fails to act against Iranian & Syrian intervention in Iraq: Thousands of US troops killed, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed in civil war between Sunnis & Shi'ites, until stopped by US Surge.

Iraq, 2011 - US withdrawal: ISIS comes back, genocide vz Yazidis, Syria destabilized.

Syrian Civil War, Obama's "red line" not enforced: Hundreds of thousands of Syrians killed by Assad, Hezbollah, Iran, & Russia, many w/ sarin & chlorine bombs.

https://twitter.com/timstarr2001/status/1737294440799035845

1) "Non-interventionists" oppose military spending as a waste motivated by paranoia about imaginary threats.

2) "Non-interventionists" oppose defensive alliances as entanglements that drag more countries into wars, as well as provoking aggressors.

3) "Non-interventionists" condemn attacks upon imminent threats as aggression.

4) "Non-interventionists" blame-shift for actual attacks by claiming the aggressors were provoked by insufficient non-intervention.

"Non-interventionism" is an unfalsifiable theory for opposing any military defense by anyone, ever. It has nothing to do with actually fighting any defensive wars that have ever actually happened. It is merely an abstract absolute standard by which all military defense is condemned regardless of context.

Whenever this gets pointed out, non-interventionists go into denial, saying "That's not real non-interventionism," just like socialists respond to all socialist failures with "That's not real socialism." The "No True Scotsman" fallacy is popular with both non-interventionists and socialists, who often overlap due to their shared opposition to US foreign policy - and ONLY US foreign policy.

See also

• NATO/With Or Without NATO - a Tale of Four Wars